SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Hallelujah.  Give him a good hand clap.  And Larry, God bless you as you head toward that chapel service.

SPKM LARRY LEA God bless you, Richard.  (APPLAUSE) 

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS And speaking of welcomes.  I want you to help me to welcome two very special people to our television program, friends of this ministry, friends of our family — James and Betty Robinson.  (APPLAUSE)  James, God bless you.  Betty, so glad you could come with James and be with us.  (APPLAUSE) James.  I have something that I want to talk to you about.  But I want to follow up on this letter that I received from this Vietnam veteran.  Because there are many servicemen who feel because of what they had to do in wars, such as the Vietnam War, and especially in a war that received much criticism.  Now let’s just be honest about it.  It received a lot of criticism, although the newspapers painted it in ways in which it was not — and the newspapers are famous for that, as you well know.  But I wanted to know your response.  Have you had to deal with this kind of thing in your own ministry?  And how would you respond to a man or a woman who has had to do something in a war and it’s been eating them up on the inside.

SPKM JAMES ROBINSON Richard, I think you handled it beautifully. I think what you said is perfectly appropriate.  I also would like to add to it just simply the thought from the New Testament, because you did refer to the Old Testament illustration of how God did use David to destroy the enemies of God who were in fact out to destroy the innocent ones.  And whether we realize it or not, Jesus Christ actually came and gave his own life in behalf of those who are innocent through Christ and through his redemptive plan — but he also delivered a death blow to the kingdom of darkness.  And which ultimately will be the total elimination of all the powers of the enemy and the enemy himself. So Jesus came and gave his life for us.  There was combat there. It was mortal as far as he was concerned.  Because it cost him his life.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS That’s right.

SPKM JAMES ROBISON  SU01 But in the 13th chapter of Romans we find a very definite reference to the authorities and to the rulers.  And I would like to just share that.  First of all, there is the exhortation from the Lord to be in subjection to the governing authority except that which is established by God. Therefore, if you resist authority, and you are opposing the ordinance of God, and those who do oppose will receive condemnation in themselves, for rulers are not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil.  Do you want to have no fear of authority?  Do what is good, and you will have the praise of authority.  For it is a minister of God to you for good.  But if you do what is evil, be afraid, for the authority, the ruling power does not bear the sword for nothing.  It is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath upon the one who practices evil. And that is precisely what these individuals were doing as subjects of the ruling authorities.  They were instruments of death to those who were in opposition to the right or to good. And so they were actually serving the country.  I do not feel there is any reason for them to have any sort of a feeling of guilt.  Of course they have hurt in their heart that the war ever took place in the first place.  We are always sorry when wars come.  But they do come.  And when we serve our country that is a noble thing, and it’s not something to be in any kind of a guilt trip over.  And we just pray for God to give total healing and restoration in the mind and memories to anyone who did serve the country.

SPKM ORU SINGERS  SONG The_Time_Is_Now   AD01 PROMO — ORUCollege Easter Weekend — you come and the weekend is on us. Call today. (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Larry Lea is standing by in the audience with special guests.  Larry, we’re going to give you a good handclap this morning.  (APPLAUSE)

SPKM LARRY LEA Hey, thank you, Richard.  It’s a joy to be here. And I am so thankful today that James and Betty Robinson and Buck and Dottie Rambo are here — but before they share with us we’ve got a couple of guys here from ORU that are part of the Karate Club or the Karate team.  I want you to tell me what you guys do? What is the Karate group?

SPKM JEFF MCKISSICK  SU02 Basically what we do is we are getting rid of a negative stereotype about the martial arts.  Just as John Jacobs and his Power Team were here the other day, and they were talking about a common ground.  That is what we are seeking to establish.  There are a lot of people in the martial arts, and there are a lot of people are interested in being in the martial arts, but a negative stereotype keeps them from it.  They think that in order to be in martial arts you must bow to certain idols.  Well, we bow before and after our class to the only bow of submission in our club here at ORU, is a bow to the Lord God Almighty. (APPLAUSE)

SPKM LARRY LEA And that’s the commitment of all of us here at ORU…and what is your name again?

SPKM JEFF MCKISSICK My name is Jeff McKissick.

SPKM LARRY LEA And Jeff, what do you do there?

SPKM JEFF MCKISSICK I am one of the head instructors.

SPKM LARRY LEA In other words you could hurt me right now, is that what you are telling me?

SPKM JEFF MCKISSICK But I wouldn’t…

SPKM LARRY LEA Oh, no, you wouldn’t every do that.  And what’s your name?

SPKM DAVID SHAY David Shay.

SPKM LARRY LEA Hi, David, and what part do you play?

SPKM DAVID SHAY I’m one of the officers of the club, I’m the secretary.

SPKM LARRY LEA You’re the secretary.  Let me ask you — I understand you have a presentation today.  What is that, please? 

SPKM JEFF MCKISSICK The club is a part of Oral Roberts University and a part of this ministry.  As a part of this ministry we are in support of everything that this ministry stands for, which is the healing team concepts. And we are here today to present the first of what will be a series of checks from that club.  Every month they have to give dues as a part of being a member of that club.  And these dues, now and in the future, will go toward the healing team ministry of Oral Roberts University.  (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Hallelujah.

SPKM LARRY LEA Jeff, Thank you so much for that.  This is a check for $100.  And I want to just say thank you to you, Jeff, for you commitment to the Lord.  And the fact that we are a unified force for the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ right here at ORU. Richard, it’s a joy.

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Larry, while you are standing there — there are other groups around campus that are doing things like this. And sowing seeds.  Yesterday we received a check from a group of students who have been collecting aluminum cans and newspapers and turning them in.  They set a goal — they wanted to sow a seed of $10,000 in the medical missions.  And yesterday they gave the first seed of $2,000 to help equip and staff our first medical mission station.  And I’ll tell you, things are moving here at ORU, and especially since we made that great announcement several days  ago on the program.  (APPLAUSE)

SPKM LARRY LEA Well, that is exactly right.  And while there is a tremendous turmoil that has…and gone about — this tremendous controversy about medical missions, we are united here at ORU. And because of that there is a commanded blessing coming on us, and also all of those, our partners, that are standing with us. So we give God praise today.  And it is a joy to see the Spirit of God moving.  (APPLAUSE)

SPRR RICHARD ROBERTS Larry, I know that in just a moment you have to depart, because you are going to be preaching in one of our chapel services for your graduate school of theology.  But before you go give us a good word of testimony about the Signs and Wonders Seminary, and about upcoming fall and enrollment in the Signs and Wonders Seminary here at ORU.

SPKM LARRY LEA Well, we are so thankful, Richard, for what the Holy Spirit is doing here at ORU.  The Lord just is doing something unique in the sphere of theological education.  As you know, Richard, we have — last Tuesday night — have a class called Signs and Wonders where we are bringing people into this campus that are actually doing the work of the ministry.  There is a great difference between learning about God and learning about ministry.  And learning how to practically apply it.  That is the very reason I am here, because I am the pastor.  Also, the Church On The Rock in Rockwall, Texas.  And we are doing ministry there.  And here at ORU we are equipping young men and young women to actually learn about ministry, but also learn to do the work of the ministry.  And for that I just want to say to anyone who is listening today who has a desire to study the word of God, has a desire to go into the depth of the word of God, and then learn how to do the work of the ministry.  We here are equippers and we will help you, and believe God to do great things in and through your life.  And so we are going to be having a great enrollment campaign that is going to begin.  And if you have a desire, you can write me, Larry Lea, Oral Roberts University, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and just tell me, “I need,” — or you know someone, maybe your pastor or others.  we have four new masters programs in our seminary.  A masters in counseling.  A masters of music.  We have a masters of Biblical arts.  And we are believing God is going to do a marvelous, marvelous thing through our seminary. So Richard, we are thankful for what is happening.  And I am believing God for 500 students in our seminary.  (APPLAUSE)

 SU01 Praise the Lord.  (APPLAUSE)  More and more and more testimonies.  And I received a prayer request the other day, and a letter that I must share with you.  “I’m writing this prayer request for my husband because he’s had trouble in several areas in his life.  Please feel free to pray for us, and don’t hesitate in reading our letter.” Although there are something in here — well, you might not necessarily read something like this on the air — but these people are desperate.  “We watch your program every day.  Many times I have wakened in the morning to see my husband touching the television set or his self, hoping for a miracle while you pray.  He wants God to heal him.  I have never seen or known anyone who wants God so much.  My husband is depressed all the time, and has some other problems that he has had to deal with.  He is an alcoholic.  And he has a liver problem that has been caused by all of the alcohol.  My husband wants God to touch him and make him whole.  He needs peace in his mind.  And he needs the old war memories cast out.  He still has the horrors of serving in the Vietnam War since 1967.  This has caused him all kinds of problems.  Will you please pray?”  And the P.S. says, “My husband  SM01 carries guilt because when he served in Vietnam he had to kill.  The Bible says,” this woman says, ‘thou shalt not kill.’ ( MS_Deuteronomy_05:17 ) How does this apply to the war?”  I don’t know — maybe James Robinson may want to deal with that in a little while.  First of all, God will never hold you responsible for what you must do in a war.  I want to remind you that David, a man whom God said was after his own heart, is the one who took his slingshot and slew Goliath.  And in the name of the Lord David had to destroy many people.  But God did not lay it to his charge because he was acting under orders from God.  And I say to you as a Vietnam veteran, or a veteran of the Korean War, or you could be a veteran of some other conflict where you served the United States of America —  you don’t have to carry that guilt.  And now you my brother, who is suffering in this way, I pray for you. Everybody just stretch your hands out toward the television set.  And you at home, stretch your hands out toward me.  And let me be your point of contact, and let’s pray.  My brother in California, you are a representative of so many men and women who may feel this way right now.  In the name of Jesus I cast out that discouragement and that load of guilt that you are carrying.  God did not put that on you, the devil has put that one your life.  And in Jesus’ name I rebuke it. And I ask all of those memories to be driven out of your life by the Holy Spirit.  And I want to pray especially for you, my Brother, you’ve been so discouraged and so distressed it has caused you to turn to alcohol.  Alcohol is not the answer to your problem.  All that is going to do is destroy your liver.  The answer to your problem is receiving Jesus as  your Lord and Savior and getting that peace in your heart.  And I want to pray for you, and I want to pray for anyone else who’s lost and you know you are lost, and you want to receive a miracle. You want Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.  I’m going to ask you and everybody here in our studio to pray this prayer out loud after me.  Will you do it?  Oh, Lord, be merciful to me, a sinner.  I’m a sinner, Lord, and I’m sorry.  I repent of my sins.  I turn my back on the past.  I reject the devil.  I renounce him and all of his works. And I take Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.  Come into my heart, Lord Jesus.  Save me.  Heal me.  Deliver me.  Forgive me.  And now by my faith I receive your forgiveness.  Your forgiveness is flooding in me now.  Forgiving me of every sin, of every trespass, in Jesus’ name I’ll never be the same again.  Oh, friend, if you meant that prayer from your heart, and I believe you did, God is changing you now.  God is turning the situation around in your life.  I want you to go to your telephone right now and call area code 918 495-7777.  That is the Abundant Life Prayer Group.  Area code 918 495-7777.  And let me know that you just prayed that prayer and you agreed with me for Jesus to save your soul and set you free.  And my dear brother, you don’t have to carry that guilt anymore.  I’m so proud of all those men and women who have served our armed forces in wars and in conflicts.  I’m proud of those who are in the United States Army right now, who are serving around the world — who are in our Navy, our Air Force, our Marines, our Coast Guard. All of our armed forces services.  I’m proud of them.  We must have our armed forces.  And I thank God for them.  And I pray for every military leader today.  And I pray for you as a soldier, as a seaman, as a pilot, as a technician, or whatever it is that you are doing in the armed forces.  You are protecting your country, and God needs a protective service in the United States of America.  I thank you.  You are not alone.  There are servicemen that are watching this program in places around the world right now, even as I am speaking.  I thank God for you.  You are not forgotten.  America has not forgotten.  Don’t believe the news that you are lost and you are forgotten.  We’ve not forgotten you.  The core of America has not forgotten you.  And we are not going to forget you.  You are our own.  We are yours and you are ours.  We believe in you and we love you, and we pray for you. Don’t let that guilt load up on you, of what you had to do when you where serving your country.  That’s covered under the blood of Jesus Christ.  I praise God.  I think we ought to give the Lord a great handclap. (APPLAUSE) Hallelujah.  Well, Dr. Larry Lea is here today, the dean of our Signs and Wonders Seminary. He has a good word for you.  James Robinson is here to minister the Word of God to you.  Buck and Dottie Rambo are here. This is going to be an exciting program, I know it.  The ORU Singers are standing by with the Oral Roberts University Orchestra, (APPLAUSE) to minister “The Time Is Now” — give them a good handclap as they minister the gospel in song.

On the last night of His life, Jesus transferred His power to His disciples.  He told them in John 16:24 NKJV, “Until now you have asked nothing in My name.  Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be full.”  He was saying, “You’ve not used My name before, but from now on, you will.” 

It’s like when a businessman leaves the country and wants somebody to take care of his business while he’s gone. He gives that person the power of attorney—the authority to conduct his business exactly as he would if he were there.    

Jesus has given us His name to use as our power of attorney.  All of His resources and everything that He is are available to us. That means He wants us to act in His place exactly as He would act if He were still on earth.  We can take dominion over the devil and his attacks and say, “Devil, take your hands off God’s property—me!” 

James 4:7 tells us if we resist the devil, he will flee from us.  And Philippians 2:10 says, At the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth.            

Once when I had to fly on a stormy day, I wasn’t happy about having to get on a plane.  But as I took my seat, I said, “Devil, you take your hands off this plane.  I take dominion over you now, in the name of Jesus.  The angels are surrounding us, and the weather will not hurt us.  The pilots have wisdom, and we’ll make this trip safely.” 

We ended up having the smoothest ride imaginable! 

No matter what the devil throws at you, you can take authority over it.  When you use the name of Jesus, the powers of darkness drop to their knees because Jesus has given you His power of attorney.

When Oral and I married on Christmas Day, 1938, I knew I was marrying someone called to the ministry.  But at the time, I never dreamed that he would take God’s healing message across the nation and around the world.  And because Oral obeyed God’s call on his life, we’ve spent a lot of time apart during our marriage

The longest moments of my life have been those when Oral was not with me.  When he conducted his tent crusades across the country, he was often gone from the family for three weeks at a time.  I can remember thinking as I drove him to the airport to leave for his first crusade, Goodbye, Oral.  I’ll probably be doing this the rest of my life.

When Oral was home, it always meant twice as much work for me—more cooking, more straightening up around the house—but I loved having him home, and there seemed to be a peace in our home when he was there.

I believe a marriage is worth your attention, and it’s the little things you do that can help build up a marriage.  Oral and I liked to raid the refrigerator before bedtime, and the late night snacks were usually the time for heart-to-heart talks about our future, the children, and just being in love.  Over a glass of cornbread and milk we grew closer.

Our marriage is probably no different than most couples’.  Through the years we’ve been married, there have been some rough spots, but we always worked hard to keep our love alive.

We were criticized for traveling by plane to see each other during the long crusades.  When a friend suggested that the money spent on plane fares could be used for a better cause, Oral was quick to reply, “You can’t put a price on love!”  To us, love is priceless.

Oral dearly loves his family, but I’ve always known that his love for Jesus is even greater than his love for me or the children.  That deep, spiritual love doesn’t make us jealous, because Oral’s love for Jesus makes his love for us all the more sacred.

I’ve never been sorry that I married Oral Roberts.  There were many lonely hours when he was away, but always our hearts were together in unity and love that transcended the miles.  Over the years we’ve learned that there is no distance in love 

I believe a marriage is worth your attention, and it’s the little things you do that can help build up a marriage.  Oral and I liked to raid the refrigerator before bedtime, and the late night snacks were usually the time for heart-to-heart talks about our future, the children, and just being in love.  Over a glass of cornbread and milk we grew closer.

Our marriage is probably no different than most couples’.  Through the years we’ve been married, there have been some rough spots, but we always worked hard to keep our love alive.

We were criticized for traveling by plane to see each other during the long crusades.  When a friend suggested that the money spent on plane fares could be used for a better cause, Oral was quick to reply, “You can’t put a price on love!”  To us, love is priceless.

Oral dearly loves his family, but I’ve always known that his love for Jesus is even greater than his love for me or the children.  That deep, spiritual love doesn’t make us jealous, because Oral’s love for Jesus makes his love for us all the more sacred.

I’ve never been sorry that I married Oral Roberts.  There were many lonely hours when he was away, but always our hearts were together in unity and love that transcended the miles.  Over the years we’ve learned that there is no distance in love